Kuei-shan asked Yang-shan, "How do you understand the immaculate mind?"

Yang-shan replied, "Mountains, rivers, and plains; sun, moon, and stars."

Kuei-shan said, "You only get the phenomena."

Yang-shan rejoined, "What did you just ask about?"

Kuei-shan said, "The immaculate mind."

Yang-shan said, "Is it appropriate to call it phenomena?"

Kuei-shan said, "You're right."

- Cleary's The Five Houses of Zen

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