Mason Spransy just broke through to nondual anatta and total exertion after a conversation with him on The Importance of Luminosity




Mason Spransy:



When the perception that there's something "behind" phenomena - either in the front (as a witness) or in the back (as an object) - falls away, phenomena are no longer appearances but become immediately the things themselves. Their suchness is what they are. Nothing is hidden. This visual appearance of a teacup or a couch IS the teacup or the couch. Because nothing is represented in the arising of colors and sounds, consciousness is identical to reality itself. This is what it means to directly taste things. 

Wouldn't it be nice, when eating a strawberry, to go beyond the tongue and taste the strawberry's true essence? Well, actually the tongue cannot taste. The tongue is powerless to make anything like "taste" happen; the tongue, too, lacks support. When the tongue touches the strawberry, every texture and flavor of the strawberry is the simultaneous knowing of every texture and flavor of the strawberry's essence.

Because the ten thousand things lack true essence, everything in the entire universe becomes immediately the essence of itself. There is only one taste in the whole of the cosmos, and that taste is what we call "the cosmos." Allow everything to completely dissolve into the texture of suchness, and infinite essences come forth to proclaim the one teaching: there is no essence in the entire world.


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I like writing verse to express and clarify my insights, especially in the few hours proceeding a breakthrough or opening. Here is one which expresses what I discovered today.

Unhindered, reality-less,
I go about my business.
Suchness does not know
the rain outside my window.
Naturalness prevails,
happening, happening.
The happening is no occasion
to conceive of anything existing;
the disappearing is no time
to think of anything lost.
Only see that ceasing things
were never really real;
Only see that happenings
are bubbles made of air.
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My Comments: Mason's post reminded me of Dogen somehow -

Dogen:

“The ways of viewing mountains and waters are different depending upon what kind of beings we are. There are some beings that view water as a jewel. However, this does not mean that they view a jewel [for human beings] as water. How do we see what they view as water? What they see as a jewel is what we see as water. Some beings see water as wondrous flowers. But they do not use flowers [for human beings] as water. Hungry ghosts view water as raging fire or as pus and blood. Dragons and fish view it as a palace or a lofty building. [Some beings] see it as the seven treasures or the mani jewel. [Others] see it as a forest or walls, or as the dharma nature of immaculate liberation, or as the true human body, or as body as the form and mind as the nature. Human beings view it as water. And these [different ways of viewing] are the conditions under which [water] is killed or given life.

Thus the views of different beings are diverse depending upon their karmic conditions. We should question this for now. Should we think that each being views one and same object in different ways? Or do all kind of beings make a mistake when we see that various different forms we see as one and same objects? We should inquire further on the top of our efforts of inquiry. Therefore, our practice/realization as engaging the Way should not be only one way or two ways. The ultimate realm has onethousand or ten thousand of ways."



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Soh Wei Yu Well said, Mason Spransy

Dogen:

Those who know a speck of dust know the entire universe; those who penetrate a single dharma penetrate all dharmas. If you do not pentrate all dharmas, you do not penetrate a dharma. When you understand the meaning of penetration (tsu) and thereby penetrate thoroughly, you discern all dharmas as well as a single dharma. For this reason, while you study a speck of dust, you study the whole universe without fail.

(Eighei Dogen: Mystical Realist, Hee-Jin Kim)
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Soh Wei Yu Mason wrote "Do not be lax."

Indeed,

"Though one should live a hundred years
As a lazy, sluggish person,
Better it is to live a single day
Firmly arousing one’s energy."
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(Dhammapada 112)
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Soh Wei Yu Thusness:

"There is the self that arises from conceptual reification, seeing through that with anatta insight is entry point.

There is the self that arises in marketplace, in day to day activities, anatta of that is graduation."
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Soh Wei Yu Conversation with Thusness in 2013:

23/6/13 12:49:25 AM: John Tan: Insight of anatta is rare

23/6/13 12:49:40 AM: John Tan: But must go with right view

23/6/13 12:57:31 AM: John Tan: For u now u r still looking for recognition and authentication from someone.
23/6/13 12:58:03 AM: Soh Wei Yu: Lol not really... The more I look around the more disappointed I am 😛
23/6/13 12:58:33 AM: John Tan: Not "not really", it is a fact.
23/6/13 12:59:25 AM: Soh Wei Yu: I don't think I need authentication and don't think I can find authentication when so few people realize anatta like u said

23/6/13 1:01:10 AM: John Tan: Lol I told ur mum when I first met her.
23/6/13 1:01:54 AM: John Tan: Still b humble.
23/6/13 1:02:03 AM: Soh Wei Yu: Lol ok
23/6/13 1:02:48 AM: John Tan: Yet anatta is just the beginning
23/6/13 1:03:37 AM: John Tan: Currently anatta is quite stable but self-releasing is still intellectual
23/6/13 1:04:57 AM: John Tan: Anyway my self releasing may not b the same as self-liberation in dzogchen
23/6/13 1:05:10 AM: John Tan: Will talk abt that when we meet up
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Responding to someone on reddit:
Everything which comes through the six sense doors is wisdom. That means when there is seeing, nothing is seen; when there is hearing, nothing is heard; when there is tasting, nothing is tasted. Another way to say it: all conceptual proliferation has stopped. The mind does not move, and to that extent the world does not even appear. Neither the mind nor the world need to appear for me to write these words to you.
Color is vivid to a point of infinite texture. In fact, every sight, sound, taste, touch, smell, and thought is comprised of infinite texture. There is in fact such an infinity of texture that "things" - even "ideas" or "phenomena" - cannot be said to arise. Furthermore, every single "node" in the texture of reality is seen to refer back to and actually be nothing but the infinite reference of all other nodes in the universe. This is very hard to explain, which is why in the past people who attained this just remained silent about it. But I can go on and on and on.
Shape, color, texture, speed, and the other things you mentioned are all known to the extent to which they are valid of experience. Because the mind does not move, there is a sense in which none of these concepts is valid, as they are all objectifications. Because the minds moves with infinite freedom, each of these things is seen to be an expression of the other. "Shape" is just the form that color takes, "speed" is just the way that shapes move, "chronoception" is just the way the mind fabricates time in order to fabricate objects which can arise and cease in time. When the mind stops, there is no more fabrication of time so everything happens in an infinite present. However, that too is just a conventional way of speaking. Ultimately, nothing happens to no one, never did and never will.



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Soh Wei Yu An interesting thing about AF is that according to Daniel many of the AF claimants back then reported getting lessened need for sleep but Daniel Ingram did not. YMMV. My sleep is not too affected after anatta (about 7 hours, like Daniel) but Thusness sleeps only 4-5 hours a day and that is enough for him. Some people encounter insomnia in I AMness due partly to the attachment to Presence or Luminosity as Self, but it seems even anatta breakthrough can have effect on sleep. Buddha himself sleeps only 1 hour a night. But that is different from us and we should not try to replicate that effect or mistaken insomnia for attainment.

In any case Thusness wrote in 2006 and 2007,

2006:

Yes Longchen,

Very well said. There never was a gap, it can't be. It is one whole flow and nothing else. When there is one, there is two. When the one subsides, nothing isn't the one Reality.

Clear transparency of the One Reality also has its problem. An illumination into the non-duality without certain pre-requiste can cause problems. There is always habitual propensities that will again make this experience an object of attachment. It can cause a person to go without sleep as the body is incapable of dealing with this new found experience. Many have mistaken this to be a heightening of awareness and took it as a natural progression. This is not true. Whenever this happens, know that it is due to attachment. Learn how to let go of everything until a tranquil calmness arise, it has got to do with our thought patterns, there must come this willingness to let go of our body completely, then our thoughts and the experience of presence...completely letting go from moment to moment...the senses and thoughts can be shut by this art of letting go and non-attachment. Total letting go and vivid Presence must fuse into one.

Practice during the waking state till the there is no single trace of doubt that there is absolutely no one there, no inner and no outer, just the incredible realness and vividness of the manifestation. The experience of non-dual in the waking state. Witnessing dreams and there is no witness, just dreams is different. Dealing with the more subtle states and pre-conscious propensites require one to master this art of non-attachment, non-action. There is no conscious way of dealing with the more subtle states, just stabilized the experience and allow the momentum to carry us naturally into the dream and deep sleep. Sleep well.

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2007:

To find one that can completely surrender and totally be is extremely rare. Not even one in millions. Yet in deep sleep, all has to let go. How can one be denied such a precious state of beingness.

For a person that has experienced no-self (non-duality), deep sleep is even more important. It is the completion of a full cycle of non-duality and natural beingness.

But this may not be the case for one that clings to the "Eternal Witnessing". There is a very subtle holding in them for mantaining this witnessing subconciously thereby denying them from naturally going into deep sleep. If it reaches a point that presents itself as a problem, it is a signal to the practitioner that it is time to let go and dissolve the holding of the Witness, the center. It will be tough to simply try just "let go" of the center and if this is the case, an insight into our "emptiness nature" may help.

Only after going through a full cycle of natural non-duality and beingness in all three states will a practitioner sleep be shorten. I called this the second cycle of non-duality.

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Fade away and appreciate "no where". Sleep well!
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Soh Wei Yu Also Thusness wrote to me in Sept 2010 when I was in my one mind phase:

Hi Simpo and AEN,

Yet we cannot get carried away by all these blissful experiences. Blissfulness is the result of luminosity whereas liberation is due to prajna wisdom. 🙂
To AEN,
For intense luminosity in the foreground, you will not only have vivid experience of ‘brilliant aliveness’, ‘you’ must also completely disappear. It is an experience of being totally ‘transparent’ and without boundaries. These experiences are quite obvious, u will not miss it. However the body-mind will not rest in great content due to an experience of intense luminosity. Contrary it can make a practitioner more attach to a non-dual ultimate luminous state.
For the mind to rest, it must have an experience of ‘great dissolve’ that whatever arises perpetually self liberates. It is not about phenomena dissolving into some great void but it is the empty nature of whatever arises that self-liberates. It is the direct experience of groundlessness and non –abiding due to direct insight of the empty nature of phenomena and that includes the non-dual luminous essence.
Therefore In addition to bringing this ‘taste’ to the foreground, u must also ‘realize’ the difference between wrong and right view. There is also a difference in saying “Different forms of Aliveness” and “There is just breath, sound, scenery...magical display that is utterly unfindable, ungraspable and without essence- empty.”
In the former case, realize how the mind is manifesting a subtle tendency of attempting to ‘pin’ and locate something that inherently exists. The mind feels uneasy and needs to seek for something due to its existing paradigm. It is not simply a matter of expression for communication sake but a habit that runs deep because it lacks a ‘view’ that is able to cater for reality that is dynamic, ungraspable, non-local , center-less and interdependent.
After direct realization of the non-dual essence and empty nature, the mind can then have a direct glimpse of what is meant by being ‘natural’, otherwise there will always be a ‘sense of contrivance’.
My 2 cents and have fun with ur army life. 🙂
Edited by Thusness 12 Sep `10, 12:56PM
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p.s.

"In the same way, clouting in zazen is of the utmost value. To be jolted physically by the kyosaku stick or verbally by a perceptive teacher at the right time--if it is too early, it is ineffective--can bring about Self-realization. Not only is the kyosaku valuable for spurring you on, but when you have reached a decisive stage in you zazen a hard whack can precipitate your mind into an awareness of its true nature--in other words, enlightenment.
When this happened to Enyadatta she was so elated that she rushed around exclaiming: "Oh, I've got it! I have my head after all! I'm so happy!"
This is the rapture of kensho. If the experience is genuine, you cannot sleep for two or three nights our of joy. Nevertheless, it is a half-mad state. To be overjoyed at finding a head you had from the very first is, to say the least , queer. Nor is it less odd to rejoice at the discovery of your Essential-nature, which you have never been without. The ecstasy is genuine enough, but your state of mind cannot be called natural until you have fully disabused yourself of the notions, "I have become enlightened." Mark this point well, for it is often misunderstood.
As her joy subsided Enyadatta recovered from her half-mad state.
So it is with satori. When your delirium of delight recedes, taking with it all thoughts of realization, you settle into a truly natural life and there is nothing queer about it. Until you reach this point, however, it is impossible to live in harmony with your environment or to continue on a course of true spiritual practice.
I shall now point out more specifically the significance of the first part of the story. Since most people are indifferent to enlightenment, they are ignorant of the possibility of such an experience. They are like Enyadatta when she was unconscious of her head as such. This "head," of course, corresponds to the Buddha-nature, to our innate perfection. That they evey have a Buddha-nature never occurs to most people until they hear Shujo honrai hotoke nari--"All beings are endowed with Buddha-nature from the very first." Suddenly they exclaim: "Then I too must have the Buddha-nature! But where is it? Thus like Enyadatta when she first missed her head and started rushing about looking for it, they commence their search for their True nature.
They begin by listening to various teisho, which seem contradictory and puzzling. They hear that their Essential-nature is no different from the Buddha's--more, that the substance of the universe is coextensive with their own Buddha-nature--yet because their mind are clouded with delusion they see themselves confronted by a world of individual entities. Once they establish firm belief in the reality of the Buddha-nature, they are driven to discover it with all the force of their being. Just as Enyadatta was never without her head, so are we never separate from our essential Buddha-nature whether we are enlightened or not. But of this we are unaware. We are like Enyadatta when her friends told her: "Don't be absurd, you have always had your head. It is an illusion to think otherwise."
The discovery of our True-nature can be compared to Enyadatta's discovery of her head. But what have we discovered? Only that we have never been without it! Nonetheless we are ecstatic, as she was at the finding of her head. When the ecstasy recedes, we realize we have acquired nothing extraordinary, and certainly nothing peculiar. Only now everything is utterly natural."


-- recommended reading, Yasutani-roshi's Introductory Lectures on Zen Training (it's a practical text on Zazen and Koan training)



Thusness wrote:

[5:11 PM, 12/25/2018] John Tan: I also have the same experience ... Lol
[5:12 PM, 12/25/2018] John Tan: In I AM, one non-dual mind, anatta and total exertion
[5:16 PM, 12/25/2018] John Tan: Most intense is anatta, explosion of luminous intensity into 3 states into meditative experiences into 3 states and several episodes of dreams of clarity...but even then never go beyond 90 days cycle... that's y I tell u always wait for 90 days cycle. 
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