tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.comments2024-03-18T10:07:38.422+08:00Awakening to RealitySohhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comBlogger1284125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-75048584600067453612024-03-18T07:36:03.896+08:002024-03-18T07:36:03.896+08:00Thanks for posting (or re-posting) this info about...Thanks for posting (or re-posting) this info about the difference between nirodha samapatti and nibbana.. much appreciated. It needs to be said as there is still that wrong view floating around the internet.Dean Paradisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898106701950641326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-16632601997842171422024-02-27T16:18:27.325+08:002024-02-27T16:18:27.325+08:00This article would be easier to read with some sec...This article would be easier to read with some section breaks.Spectrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12330364461955403808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-44626587081878159692023-12-28T04:21:21.734+08:002023-12-28T04:21:21.734+08:00Thank You fpr this beautiful and illuminating seri...Thank You fpr this beautiful and illuminating series, well done!Adrastiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03840974812913549010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-9112825199458534212023-10-01T11:50:13.674+08:002023-10-01T11:50:13.674+08:00You are talking about impersonality. See https://w...You are talking about impersonality. See https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2018/12/four-aspects-of-i-am.html and https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2018/12/good-for-different-phasesaspects-of-i.html<br /><br />Anatta is a different realization, it is further down the road. https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/04/different-degress-of-no-self-non.htmlSohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-35964910196631472132023-10-01T08:28:05.692+08:002023-10-01T08:28:05.692+08:00There are 2 'Mind' , the individual Mind (...There are 2 'Mind' , the individual Mind ( or 'mine' ) , the soul-spark ..... dis one is a portion of the One True Mind ( but not to say this individual Mind or Soul is false lol ) , and second is the Divine , the True One .... the experiences of no self ( lack of individuality ) can be categorized as the middle stage on the path to divine perfection ..... how to reach such perfection ? In the end , after reaching certain stages and hving spiritual experiences , one has to FULLY SURRENDER to the One Divine Will ..... there is no other way ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-88109860929052219352023-09-28T21:50:09.905+08:002023-09-28T21:50:09.905+08:00...
Just for the sake of clarification, I would ...<br />...<br /><br /><br />Just for the sake of clarification, I would like to make it clear that I never said that "these luminous self-perceiving phenomena which are craving-free and nondual are the Ultimate", if there could still be any ambiguity about that.<br /><br />On the contrary, I said that what I used to take for an eternal, empty, uncreated, nondual, primordial awareness, source and substance of all things, turned out to be nothing more than the luminous nature of phenomena, themselves empty and ungraspable, somehow crystallized in a very subtle witnessing position. The whole topic of this thread is the deconstruction of this Primordial Awareness, One Mind, Cognizing Emptiness, Self, Atman, Luminous Mind, Tathagatgabha, or whatever we may call it,<br /><br />As shocking as it may seem, the Buddha was very clear to say that this pure impersonal objectless nondual awareness (that Vedantists called Atma in Sanskrit, Atta in Pali) is still the aggregate of consciousness and that consciousness, as pure and luminous as it can be, does not stand beyond the aggregates.<br /><br />"Any kind of consciousness whatever, whether past, future or presently arisen, whether gross or subtle, whether in oneself or external, whether inferior or superior, whether far or near must, with right understanding how it is, be regarded thus: 'This is not mine, this is not I, this is not my self.'" (Anatta-lakkhana Sutta).<br /><br />….<br /><br />Another dharma teacher who underwent similar journey from Vedanta realization (confirmed to be deep and profound by his Vedanta teachers and asked to teach) before going into Buddhist realization is Archaya Mahayogi Shridhar Rana Rinpoche, you can read about his bio and articles here: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/search/label/Acharya%20Mahayogi%20Shridhar%20Rana%20Rinpoche<br />”Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-2726387919214581612023-09-28T21:49:40.283+08:002023-09-28T21:49:40.283+08:00I myself, and many others, will not agree with you...I myself, and many others, will not agree with you from experience. <br /><br />“ Zen teacher Alex Weith, who went through Atman-Brahman realization before realizing anatman, said well in his well written writings that I compiled here http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2011/10/zen-exploration-of-bahiya-sutta.html :<br /><br />What I realized also is that authoritative self-realized students of direct students of both Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharaj called me a 'Jnani', inviting me to give satsangs and write books, while I had not yet understood the simplest core principles of Buddhism. I realized also that the vast majority of Buddhist teachers, East and West, never went beyond the same initial insights (that Adhyashanti calls "an abiding awakening"), confusing the Atma with the ego, assuming that transcending the ego or self-center (ahamkara in Sanskrit) was identical to what the Buddha had called Anatta (Non-Atma).<br /><br />It would seem therefore that the Buddha had realized the Self at a certain stage of his acetic years (it is not that difficult after all) and was not yet satisfied. As paradoxical as it may seem, his "divide and conquer strategy" aimed at a systematic deconstruction of the Self (Atma, Atta), reduced to -and divided into- what he then called the five aggregates of clinging and the six sense-spheres, does lead to further and deeper insights into the nature of reality. As far as I can tell, this makes me a Buddhist, not because I find Buddhism cool and trendy, but because I am unable to find other teachings and traditions that provide a complete set of tools and strategies aimed at unlocking these ultimate mysteries, even if mystics from various traditions did stumble on the same stages and insights often unknowingly. <br /><br />….<br /><br /><br />This also means that the first step is to disembed from impermanent <br />phenomena until the only thing that feels real is this all pervading <br />uncreated all pervading awareness that feels like the source and <br />substance of phenomena. Holding on to it after this realization can <br />hower become a subtle form of grasping diguised as letting go.<br /><br />The second step is therefore to realize that this brightness, awakeness or<br /> luminosity is there very nature of phenomena and then only does the <br />duality between the True Self and the appearences arising and passing <br />within the Self dissolve, revealing the suchness of what is.<br /><br />The next step that I found very practical is to push the process of <br />deconstruction a step further, realizing that all that is experienced <br />is one of the six consciousness. In other words, there is neither a <br />super Awareness beyond phenomena, not solid material objects, but only <br />six streams of sensory experiences. The seen, the heard, the sensed, <br />the tasted, the smelled and the cognized (including thoughts, emotions,<br /> and subtle thougths like absorbtion states, jhanas).<br /><br />At this point it is not difficult to see how relevent the Bahiya Sutta can become.<br /><br />...<br />Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-74735919018939193132023-09-28T21:14:56.506+08:002023-09-28T21:14:56.506+08:00Well , it may b too much to day u hv zero understa...Well , it may b too much to day u hv zero understanding for certainly u had some spiritual experiences ..... but unfortunately u had wrongly interpreted those experiences and equate them with the highest Supreme ..... they are not ....<br />and dis partly had to be 'blamed' on buddhism .... buddhism is an incomplete teachings .... it will only lead its followers 1/2 way ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-14861191552005701862023-09-22T23:31:52.633+08:002023-09-22T23:31:52.633+08:00No. What you call God realization is simply the mo...No. What you call God realization is simply the more mature form within the I AM phase — the impersonality aspect of the four aspects of I am https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2018/12/four-aspects-of-i-am.html. As I wrote in my 2011 article, excerpt from https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2011/12/experience-realization-view-practice_16.html<br /><br />“Just one day after writing this chapter, I found a book by the same name as mine, 'Who am I?' by Pandit Shriram Sharma Archaya. He distinguishes the Soul, the Inner Self/the Inner Witness/the 'Nucleus of your World', from the Universal Self or the Omnipresent Supreme Being which is the supreme source of even that Inner Self and everything else in the world. He says that one has to realise the Inner Self first before realizing the unity or oneness of that Inner Self with that Universal Self, Atman=Brahman. <br /><br />This is precisely what I'm talking about - the difference between the initial experience and realization of I AM (as the inner Self), then the maturation into the Universal I AM, which is the aspect of impersonality. This is the difference between Thusness Stage 1 and 2. In the Universal I AM, it is just this "unified field" in which "everything belongs to everyone", and that in this phase "A Yogi is one whose individuality has been consciously united (merged) with the cosmic Self." Everything and everyone is impersonally expressed and lived by this pervasive source, as stated by him, "particles of universally pervasive intelligence and energy, cosmic consciousness [Chetna] and life, are activating infinite systems, forms and forces of this cosmos."”<br /><br />All these do not go beyond the first two stages of Thusness 7 stages https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html<br /><br />Buddha was trained under Samkhya but rejected it after having attained the deep meditative realizations and formless absorptions pertaining to those who teaches the doctrine of Self.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-11527199179620305162023-09-22T23:03:53.648+08:002023-09-22T23:03:53.648+08:00Buddhism's full enlightenment could really b j...Buddhism's full enlightenment could really b just an intermediate stage on our path to the Supreme/Infinite Divine ... .. the stage of no-self may really b just the realization of the not-self of the koshas/ sheaths ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-48036780127137868552023-09-13T09:46:46.124+08:002023-09-13T09:46:46.124+08:00Background is really just the first step in Advait...Background is really just the first step in Advaita. As Rupert Spira points out, the background and foreground distinction collapses in further stages of realization. But Buddhism points to an even deeper realization than what Rupert narrated.<br /><br /><br />"If we are absorbed in a movie it may seem at first that the screen lies behind the image. Likewise, if we are so captivated by experience that we overlook the simple experience of being aware or awareness itself, we may first locate it in the background of experience. In this first step, being aware or awareness itself is recognised as the subjective witness of all objective experience. <br /><br />Looking more closely we see that the screen is not just in the background of the image but entirely pervades it. Likewise, all experience is permeated with the knowing with which it is known. It is saturated with the experience of being aware or awareness itself. There is no part of a thought, feeling, sensation or perception that is not infused with the knowing of it. This second realisation collapses, at least to a degree, the distinction between awareness and its objects. <br /><br />In the third step, we understand that it is not even legitimate to claim that knowing, being aware or awareness itself pervades all experience, as if experience were one thing and awareness another. Just as the screen is all there is to an image, so pure knowing, being aware or awareness itself is all there is to experience. All there is to a thought is thinking, and all there is to thinking is knowing. All there is to an emotion is feeling, and all there is to feeling is knowing. All there is to a sensation is sensing, and all there is to sensing is knowing. All there is to a perception is perceiving, and all there is to perceiving is knowing. Thus, all there is to experience is knowing, and it is knowing that knows this knowing. Being all alone, with nothing in itself other than itself with which it could be limited or divided, knowing or pure awareness is whole, perfect, complete, indivisible and without limits. <br /><br />This absence of duality, separation or otherness is the experience of love or beauty, in which any distinction between a self and an object, other or world has dissolved. Thus, love and beauty are the nature of awareness. In the familiar experience of love or beauty, awareness is tasting its own eternal, infinite reality. It is in this context that the painter Paul Cézanne said that art gives us the ‘taste of nature’s eternity’.<br />- Rupert Spira, Being Aware of Being Aware"<br />Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-47587674220430630902023-09-13T09:43:49.782+08:002023-09-13T09:43:49.782+08:00Though u repeatly saying 'no background' ,...Though u repeatly saying 'no background' , 'no background' .... but it is dis very 'Background' ( which u deny and refuse to see ) - when followed to its end - dat is the Supreme Himself !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-66136003314710775532023-09-06T23:58:24.844+08:002023-09-06T23:58:24.844+08:00On the contrary, I have realized that with absolut...On the contrary, I have realized that with absolute certainty since my I AM realization in February 2010. There are lot of further realisations, many of which you truly have zero ideas and understanding of, primarily the anatman and emptiness insights.<br /><br />You may think otherwise but I think you really wasting time here if you insist on trying to convince me otherwise. There is 0 doubts here about my realizations.<br /><br />If you wish to understand the anatman and emptiness realization, then you have to approach AtR materials with open mindedness and sincerity.<br /><br />Otherwise, you are free to think as you wish, and I have no time to entertain your comments.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-5940538118680520642023-09-06T23:57:41.714+08:002023-09-06T23:57:41.714+08:00Bro, u r not qualified to talk anything abt the Di...Bro, u r not qualified to talk anything abt the Divine coz u hv ZERO idea wat the Supreme/Absolute truly is .....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-81476775323846927142023-09-06T23:56:54.545+08:002023-09-06T23:56:54.545+08:00On the contrary, I have realized that with absolut...On the contrary, I have realized that with absolute certainty since my I AM realization in February 2010. There are lot of further realisations, many of which you truly have zero ideas and understanding of, primarily the anatman and emptiness insights. <br /><br />You may think otherwise but I think you really wasting time here if you insist on trying to convince me otherwise. There is 0 doubts here about my realizations.<br /><br />If you wish to understand the anatman and emptiness realization, then you have to approach AtR materials with open mindedness and sincerity. <br /><br />Otherwise, you are free to think as you wish, and I have no time to entertain your comments.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-57526152749041415742023-09-06T23:53:20.226+08:002023-09-06T23:53:20.226+08:00Bro, u r not qualified to talk anything abt the Di...Bro, u r not qualified to talk anything abt the Divine coz u hv ZERO idea wat the Supreme/Absolute truly is .....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-41050964551263922622023-08-29T23:13:23.400+08:002023-08-29T23:13:23.400+08:00Acarya Malcolm Smith has studied under authoritati...Acarya Malcolm Smith has studied under authoritative masters of the Samkhya / Vedanta lineages in the past. He is an expert of non-Buddhist teachings besides the Buddhist ones.<br /><br />Likewise I have also read many books from various Vedanta teachers, and so on in my early years.<br /><br />But this does not mean that we accept other religions and Buddhism are the same.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-17935238091351101642023-08-29T22:23:10.822+08:002023-08-29T22:23:10.822+08:00Dis malcolm guy should read - https://motherandsri...Dis malcolm guy should read - https://motherandsriaurobindo.in/Sri-Aurobindo/books/compilations/the-psychic-being/ - with a TOTALLY OPEN MIND and without ANY PRECONCEIVED NOTION .....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-56224222390162540852023-08-29T16:02:09.862+08:002023-08-29T16:02:09.862+08:00Atman realization is just thusness stage 1.
The ...Atman realization is just thusness stage 1. <br /><br />The realization of anatman, thusness stage 5, reveals that there is no atman besides luminous aggregates.<br /><br />And as Acarya Malcolm Smith wrote:<br /><br />https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2014/02/clarifications-on-dharmakaya-and-basis_16.html<br /><br /><br />Malcolm:<br /><br />"One, whoever told you rig pa is not part of the five aggregates? Rig pa is knowledge of your own state. In its impure form one's own state manifests as the five aggregates; in its pure form, it manifests as the five buddha families.<br /><br />Nagārjuna resolves this issue through using the eight examples. There is no substantial transmission, but there is serial continuity, like lighting a fire from another fire, impressing a seal on a document and so on. See his verses on dependent origination:<br /><br /> All migrating beings are causes and results.<br /> but here there are no sentient beings at all;<br /> just empty phenomena entirely produced<br /> from phenomena that are only empty,<br /> phenomena without a self and what belongs to a self,<br /> [like] utterances, lamps, mirrors, seals,<br /> lenses, seeds, sourness and echoes.<br /> Although the aggregates are serially connected,<br /> the wise are understand that nothing transfers.<br /> Also, the one who imputes annihilation<br /> upon extremely subtle existents,<br /> is not wise,<br /> and will not see the meaning of ‘arising from conditions’."<br /><br />....<br /><br />“The relative is not "reliant" on the ultimate, since they are just different cognitions of the same entity, one false, the other veridical.<br />There is no separate entity called "buddhanature" that can be established to exist in a sentient being composed of the five aggregates. If one should assert this is so, this position will be no different than the atman of the nonbuddhists.”<br /><br />Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-27166561909656426262023-08-29T15:58:55.471+08:002023-08-29T15:58:55.471+08:00Also you should know that none of your comments wi...Also you should know that none of your comments will be shown here unless I specifically approved them. And I have no time to go through and approve your comments. Your efforts to share are thus wasted I’m afraid.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-4469411590905999292023-08-29T15:57:00.818+08:002023-08-29T15:57:00.818+08:00How come you got so much time to post endlessly ab...How come you got so much time to post endlessly about Aurobindo to a Buddhist blog?<br /><br />I have neither the time nor interest to read them. Your time is better spent elsewhere. Maybe join a local Aurobindo community.Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-9768895545991196922023-08-28T23:11:33.137+08:002023-08-28T23:11:33.137+08:00Arahants are buddhist notion....it doesnt make sen...Arahants are buddhist notion....it doesnt make sense and therefore shouldnt be accepted blindly ... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-49416615086189391212023-08-28T07:20:15.409+08:002023-08-28T07:20:15.409+08:00Aggregates are mentioned above ..... wat agrigate ...Aggregates are mentioned above ..... wat agrigate ? They are just koshas/ sheaths covering the Atman ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-27847459839415160372023-08-25T16:34:57.734+08:002023-08-25T16:34:57.734+08:00See https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/mis...See https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/mistaken-reality-of-amness.html<br /><br />Excerpt:<br /><br /><br />Although there is non-duality in Advaita Vedanta, and no-self in Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta rest in an “Ultimate Background” (making it dualistic) (Comments by Soh in 2022: In rare variants of Advaita Vedanta like Greg Goode's or Atmananda's Direct Path, even [subtle subject/object] Witness is eventually collapsed and the notion of Consciousness too is dissolved later in the end -- see https://www.amazon.com/After-Awareness-Path-Greg-Goode/dp/1626258090), whereas Buddhism eliminates the background completely and rest in the emptiness nature of phenomena; arising and ceasing is where pristine awareness is. In Buddhism, there is no eternality, only timeless continuity (timeless as in vividness in present moment but change and continue like a wave pattern). There is no changing thing, only change.<br /><br />Thoughts, feelings and perceptions come and go; they are not ‘me’; they are transient in nature. Isn’t it clear that if I am aware of these passing thoughts, feelings and perceptions, then it proves some entity is immutable and unchanging? This is a logical conclusion rather than experiential truth. The formless reality seems real and unchanging because of propensities (conditioning) and the power to recall a previous experience. (See The Spell of Karmic Propensities)<br /><br />There is also another experience, this experience does not discard or disown the transients -- forms, thoughts, feelings and perceptions. It is the experience that thought thinks and sound hears. Thought knows not because there is a separate knower but because it is that which is known. It knows because it's it. It gives rise to the insight that isness never exists in an undifferentiated state but as transient manifestation; each moment of manifestation is an entirely new reality, complete in its own.<br /><br />The mind likes to categorize and is quick to identify. When we think that awareness is permanent, we fail to 'see' the impermanence aspect of it. When we see it as formless, we missed the vividness of the fabric and texture of awareness as forms. When we are attached to ocean, we seek a waveless ocean, not knowing that both ocean and wave are one and the same. Manifestations are not dust on the mirror, the dust is the mirror. All along there is no dust, it becomes dust when we identify with a particular speck and the rest becomes dust.<br /><br />Unmanifested is the manifestation,<br />The no-thing of everything,<br />Completely still yet ever flowing,<br />This is the spontaneous arising nature of the source.<br />Simply Self-So.<br />Use self-so to overcome conceptualization.<br />Dwell completely into the incredible realness of the phenomenal world.<br />Sohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416159880942160813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3225985453951330898.post-47616558553682879652023-08-25T16:31:50.880+08:002023-08-25T16:31:50.880+08:00There is no need to overanalyze and complicate thi...There is no need to overanalyze and complicate things ....just understand dat the koshas/ sheaths are impermanent and not-us :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com